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	<title>Comments on: Unopenable Mint Container</title>
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	<description>Adam DuVander’s thoughts on keeping things simple.</description>
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		<title>By: matt beck</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>matt beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adam,

Just made $5.00 off of this blog post.

A buddy of mine grew so frustrated trying to open one of these that he threw them down on the table. &quot;I&#039;ll give five bucks to whoever can get this open!&quot; he said.

* click *

Easiest five bucks I ever earned.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adam,</p>
<p>Just made $5.00 off of this blog post.</p>
<p>A buddy of mine grew so frustrated trying to open one of these that he threw them down on the table. &#8220;I&#8217;ll give five bucks to whoever can get this open!&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>* click *</p>
<p>Easiest five bucks I ever earned.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Glaspey</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Glaspey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah. I think this *is* simple, however, it&#039;s just new. As Brent said the other ways to remove a lid are only simple because you&#039;re familiar with them. However, now that you&#039;ve seen this method, it will *always* be an option.

I think that most things that aren&#039;t labeled aren&#039;t obvious the first time you encounter them. Door knobs. Pretty simple. Turn handle, open door. One handed, no-look, it just works. However, the first time you encountered a closed door, you may not have known to walk up, grab hold of the protruding object with your hand, grip it, twist, and push. After you saw it once though, it was simple enough you never had to think about it again. (obviously I&#039;m extracting the fact that most people learn this as an infant, and I&#039;m imagining an environment where an adult encounters a door knob for the first time).

I would say simplicity isn&#039;t defined by how obvious it is to the uninitiated, but how easily it is learned, how quickly it is captured to permanent memory, and how it actually functions.

Now, again, I think the &quot;idea&quot; of this container is simple, but until I actually try and use it, I can&#039;t say. It may actually be a pain to use one-handed or off of a desk, which would make it over-complicated (un-simple) even though the steps are short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah. I think this *is* simple, however, it&#8217;s just new. As Brent said the other ways to remove a lid are only simple because you&#8217;re familiar with them. However, now that you&#8217;ve seen this method, it will *always* be an option.</p>
<p>I think that most things that aren&#8217;t labeled aren&#8217;t obvious the first time you encounter them. Door knobs. Pretty simple. Turn handle, open door. One handed, no-look, it just works. However, the first time you encountered a closed door, you may not have known to walk up, grab hold of the protruding object with your hand, grip it, twist, and push. After you saw it once though, it was simple enough you never had to think about it again. (obviously I&#8217;m extracting the fact that most people learn this as an infant, and I&#8217;m imagining an environment where an adult encounters a door knob for the first time).</p>
<p>I would say simplicity isn&#8217;t defined by how obvious it is to the uninitiated, but how easily it is learned, how quickly it is captured to permanent memory, and how it actually functions.</p>
<p>Now, again, I think the &#8220;idea&#8221; of this container is simple, but until I actually try and use it, I can&#8217;t say. It may actually be a pain to use one-handed or off of a desk, which would make it over-complicated (un-simple) even though the steps are short.</p>
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		<title>By: Simplicity Rules &#38;#187; Simple radio or complicated controls?</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2021</link>
		<dc:creator>Simplicity Rules &#38;#187; Simple radio or complicated controls?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s a hidden radio concept design that&#8217;s been making the rounds. My friend Nathan sent it my way and said it reminded him of the unopenable mint container. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#38;#8217;s a hidden radio concept design that&#38;#8217;s been making the rounds. My friend Nathan sent it my way and said it reminded him of the unopenable mint container. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Simplicity Rules &#38;#187; Mint container consistency</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>Simplicity Rules &#38;#187; Mint container consistency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There were some great comments on the unopenable mint container post. I wanted to share a few of them. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Thiele</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2019</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Thiele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with Bill&#039;s comments above. The process of opening the tin is very simple once you have gained the knowledge. But the uses of this knowledge have very few applications. I can&#039;t press the center of the milk carton or the can of green beans to open them. Why should we have to learn a separate process for each product we interact with? That just adds to the clutter.

What if Microsoft Word decided on a new way to copy text? No more Command C (Ctrl C for you PCs). Instead copy would be F1. F1 is simpler, only requires pressing one button, no keyboard dexterity required, and much easier to say to somebody. But now the process of remembering that Microsoft Word uses F1 and every other program uses Command C, becomes more involved. If other programs begin to take these same liberties then complexity abounds. &#039;Speed keys&#039; become &#039;good luck remembering keys&#039;.

I like the mint tin and will probably check it out next time I am at Powell&#039;s but it is not simple. The &quot;container opening&quot; industry is not broken. Let&#039;s not try to fix it by requiring more knowledge from the user.

Good video Adam, very thought provoking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Bill&#8217;s comments above. The process of opening the tin is very simple once you have gained the knowledge. But the uses of this knowledge have very few applications. I can&#8217;t press the center of the milk carton or the can of green beans to open them. Why should we have to learn a separate process for each product we interact with? That just adds to the clutter.</p>
<p>What if Microsoft Word decided on a new way to copy text? No more Command C (Ctrl C for you PCs). Instead copy would be F1. F1 is simpler, only requires pressing one button, no keyboard dexterity required, and much easier to say to somebody. But now the process of remembering that Microsoft Word uses F1 and every other program uses Command C, becomes more involved. If other programs begin to take these same liberties then complexity abounds. &#8216;Speed keys&#8217; become &#8216;good luck remembering keys&#8217;.</p>
<p>I like the mint tin and will probably check it out next time I am at Powell&#8217;s but it is not simple. The &#8220;container opening&#8221; industry is not broken. Let&#8217;s not try to fix it by requiring more knowledge from the user.</p>
<p>Good video Adam, very thought provoking!</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is twisting &quot;simple&quot;? It&#039;s only &quot;intuitive&quot; because of your knowledge how other cylindrical containers can operate. When that didn&#039;t work, you tried pulling, because other cylindrical containers work that way. Childproof pill bottles (definitely NOT simple) work in many other ways.

I&#039;d say opening this mint container IS simple, because once you know how to do it (and it can be documented in just two simple pictures), you can open it:

* one handed
* without looking
* with ease

Even better, it&#039;s fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is twisting &#8220;simple&#8221;? It&#8217;s only &#8220;intuitive&#8221; because of your knowledge how other cylindrical containers can operate. When that didn&#8217;t work, you tried pulling, because other cylindrical containers work that way. Childproof pill bottles (definitely NOT simple) work in many other ways.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say opening this mint container IS simple, because once you know how to do it (and it can be documented in just two simple pictures), you can open it:</p>
<p>* one handed<br />
* without looking<br />
* with ease</p>
<p>Even better, it&#8217;s fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Kerman</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2011</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Kerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice vid.  Yeah, I hate reading!   I don&#039;t know--I pretty much agree, but isn&#039;t it sort of cool now that you know how it works--insider knowledge like tl says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice vid.  Yeah, I hate reading!   I don&#8217;t know&#8211;I pretty much agree, but isn&#8217;t it sort of cool now that you know how it works&#8211;insider knowledge like tl says.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2012</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an elegant device (the mint tin&#039;s lid). As to whether it&#039;s &quot;simple&quot; or not, I&#039;d say that has to be evaluated relative to how often you&#039;re going to use the tin and also relative to how applicable the device is to other applications.

If you use that tin a lot then your investment in reading the instructions is paid off soon, and the intrinsic &quot;goodness&quot; of the mechanism dominates the equation. And if that sort of lid gets used on other containers then the payoff is even better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an elegant device (the mint tin&#8217;s lid). As to whether it&#8217;s &#8220;simple&#8221; or not, I&#8217;d say that has to be evaluated relative to how often you&#8217;re going to use the tin and also relative to how applicable the device is to other applications.</p>
<p>If you use that tin a lot then your investment in reading the instructions is paid off soon, and the intrinsic &#8220;goodness&#8221; of the mechanism dominates the equation. And if that sort of lid gets used on other containers then the payoff is even better.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Lucich</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Lucich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This feels like a perfect example of &quot;insider knowledge&quot; - once you&#039;ve seen behind the velvet curtain, it is blatantly obvious. Like any good magic trick, it feels pretty obvious.

I think that well designed products/processes should feel this way for users. Maybe you do have to read the directions (or get schooled a bit on the native practices), but once oriented, it should be really easy to remember how to perform the task or use the product.

Nice find Adam.
tl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This feels like a perfect example of &#8220;insider knowledge&#8221; &#8211; once you&#8217;ve seen behind the velvet curtain, it is blatantly obvious. Like any good magic trick, it feels pretty obvious.</p>
<p>I think that well designed products/processes should feel this way for users. Maybe you do have to read the directions (or get schooled a bit on the native practices), but once oriented, it should be really easy to remember how to perform the task or use the product.</p>
<p>Nice find Adam.<br />
tl</p>
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		<title>By: jennyroo</title>
		<link>http://www.adamduvander.com/simple/unopenable-mint-container/comment-page-1#comment-2016</link>
		<dc:creator>jennyroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot open that little mint tin with anything other than my opposable thumb and my index (or middle) finger on my right hand.  It&#039;s a tough little action.  But it makes a satisfying POP.

I wonder what would happen if you banged it with a rock like a caveman?  That&#039;s primitive, but maybe not simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot open that little mint tin with anything other than my opposable thumb and my index (or middle) finger on my right hand.  It&#8217;s a tough little action.  But it makes a satisfying POP.</p>
<p>I wonder what would happen if you banged it with a rock like a caveman?  That&#8217;s primitive, but maybe not simple.</p>
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